First would like to apologize if I have done it wrong to open a new topic, but I couldn't figure out where to post it. Ok lets start.
Hi I'm Jade I am 28 years old and I live in Germany and this is my first post here. I'm not really a lurker and also not a Robsten or Nonsten how this two fandoms call themselves. I am Switzerland.
The path that led me here is probably unorthodox. I am writing an examination paper in psychology and among other things It covers identification figures in pop culture, 'When do you cross the border to dangerous love affair?' and fan-love or fan-obsession?
In the midst of my research and preparations, I was introduced by my little sister in the Twilight world. And I must admit I was not aversed.
More research showed me that in the Internet this world was even bigger than expected. And soon I also came across the 2 competing camps. Nonstens versus Robstens.
It took a while until I could figure out at all and understand. I was able to relate to many things, some made me smile and laugh, but some caused me to shake my head.
There are fans who love and adore their favorite actors and musicians for their work. They know only their movies or songs, they do not know what kind of car one drives, nor where he goes on holiday. Others want to learn more. They would like to know which horoscope he or she has, their hobbies and their love choice. But some stand out from these groups. The same is with Nonstens and Robstens. I have personally differentiated 4 groups:
Robstens: They believe that the actors Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are in real life a couple. They love that fact and find the two really sweet and are happy for the them.
Nonstens: They do not believe that Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are privately a couple. But they think that it's sweet that the two are such good friends and wish for them that soon they will find a great partner.
]Hardcore Robstens[/b: Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are Romeo & Juliet Reloaded. They are the real thing. An epic love story . For the big girls they are Baby Houseman and Johnny Castle, or Scarlett O'Hara and Rhett Butler. For the little ones they are Cinderella and her prince, or Beauty and the Beast (a beautiful Beast).
If anyone dares to tear apart their dreamlovers (a taxi driver or a co-star that doesn't matter), then they will go to war.
[b]Hardcore Nonstens: Robert Pattinson is James Dean and Mahatma Gandhi in one person. Martyr and Rebel. And everyone wants a piece of him. Kristen Stewart is the most untalented and ugly actress in the world. Robert has only compassion for her. He can be with anyone if need be even with Paris Hilton only not with the loser Kristen. Anything but that!!!!
Wenn I take a look at these two groups, I can't help my self but feel a little bit sad for them. So much love and so much hate for people they don't know. For people who will never answer their prayers.
The
hardcore Robstens love THEIR Kristen Stewart and any other femineity around Robert is damned. They are all ugly and famewhores. Kristen is the only one in the world. She is the most beautiful, the most amazing, simply the best. All other co-stars of Robert have NOTHING and Kristen has EVERYTHING. All co-stars want him for themselves. They want to leap on him at every opportunity like bitches. All the hate in the world will be thrown on these actresses.
They analize everything what has to do with Robert and Kristen. And I mean EVERYTHING. A ring here a shirt there. They know their faces better than the parents of Robert and Kristen (yeah scary). Girls don't you notice ? You really do not realize how sick it sounds? 'Unfortunately' more than half of humanity consists of women. Accept this!
Accept that sometimes when Robert goes shopping, he will most likely touch the hand of the seller when he wants to pay. Do you really believe Robert will feel good when he hears how his 'most loyal fans' slag about his female co-stars and friends? Have you considered what kind of opinion Robert and Kristen have for such people?
They would be so scared if they were locked up in a room with you as if Hannibal Lecter would be there with them. Girls you are not nice and sweet. You are frightening as hell. You are obsessive and you need help. Now!
Now for the
hardcore Nonstens:
You love Robert Pattinson. You really adore him very much. Let the love be a little obssesiv and there may be a little hatred for his co-star Kristen, who cares? Robert knows how much you love him and he is proud of those fans. Really??
Kristen is such a bitch, she is rude, untalented, can not talk, can not look, can not smile, sit, stand, walk, eat, drink, sleep .... the list is long, so long.
It is best to say simply: she can't do ANYTHING. She is NOTHING. Robert's other female co-stars can smile, look, talk, eat, drink ...they can EVERYTHING. They are everything she is not. All of them!
Each step of Kristen is analyzed to death till something negative catches your eye. Seek and ye shall find. And you always find something.
How can it be that adult women have so many thoughts over a 19-year-old and save up all their hatred for her?
All the criticism and no-goes makes you forget one thing:
She is a 19 year old girl who lives in a world we do not know. Who can claim to run in her shoes so you are able to judge her? Oh, I know the argument: In her position, she must be grateful, she has to behave in this way, talk like this, look like this and laugh like this yada-yada-yada. All the others do it so well, why don't you get it? And I thought, individuality still counts.
I thought it is important to not go under in the gray masses. Probably that does not apply for Kristen Stewart. She should perish in the Hollywood world (the polished mass).
She should adapt to this society and with her 19 years she should wear the same things and should overload herself with tons of jewelry. Maybe she would look 10 years older, but hey all the starlets look older so where's the problem?
Because if all hardcore Nostens are so 'pretty and nice', how can then a Kristen Stewart, who had such a chance to shoot with Robert, dare to look not glamorous. Stylistic change is not desirable. A style for all and that is called Glamour! This is the new etiquette.
She should hurry up to adapt in Hollywood. That means changing partnerships, false breasts, fake nose, fake laughter and fake marriages. Do not forget Botox. This is the new must! Yes, and all in the name of etiquette.
The next argument: you must not look like a starlet (nonsense) she should at least look clean. Yes, exactly, because you had the opportunity to see over photos her dandruff and the dirt under the toe nails. You know exactly when she is washed, you have her schedule always at hand. Oh, I remember Robert is another messy. But he still looks so hot. As I said, what is true for others, does not apply to Kristen Stewart.
Now we come to the biggest problem. Kristen has to do with Robert. That is so disgusting. How can he hang out with her. She is the greatest disaster and danger in his life. She destroyes him. She is 40 and he is 10, can no one explain to him that she is manipulating him?
But he is also Gandhi and is just sorry for her. The poor girl has no friends and so he drags her along almost everywhere. That means this perfect creature has no will of its own and has no balls to live his life independent from hers. And that is perfect? To me it sounds more pathetic.
For you hardcore Nonstens I can say only one thing, if it suits the people or not, fact is they like to spend time together, fact is they are good friends (if more or less, its up to them) and fact is that he decides to whom he wants to be friends with. Do you really think that Robert finds it great how you are bitching about his friend? Do you really think he is proud of their fans who hates on her?? Hardly.
Sure you say you do not hate her ( Who admits voluntarily that he hates an unknown person?!). It's just your personal opinion and dislike. I'm really sorry that I must take off your white vest, but what I have read of you is crying out for bare hatred. But one think is really funny but it's also confusing me.
Therefor that you don't like her, you are really spending so much time and energy dishing about her. Who does that? I don't talk about people that I do not find interesting. In fact they are boring. So who talks about boring people? Usually no one does that. But you do. That's weird.
Ok hardcore Robstens and hardcore Nonstens no matter how much you hide yourself in illusions, the truth still stands there waiting to catch you.
No, Kristen and Robert are not Romeo & Juliet. No, Kristen is not the prettiest in the country. No, Robert is not perfect. No, Robert and Kristen don't give a damn about how you think and feel. No, you can never be like Kristen and no, Robert will never answer your prayers.
The quicker you learn, the better for you.
And all this hatred coming from both sides is really sad. As if their isn't enough hate and sadness in the world. Adult women who are also mothers, do not worry that there are children who die of hunger but rather argue about whether Kristen Stewart or Emilie de Ravin is ugly. So much for women's solidarity.
Probably some people will feel themselves attacked by my post, but I repeat it, this is my personal neutral opinion about the so-called hardcore fans. Whether Robsten or Nonsten that is a personal choice, and they have the right to their own opinion. But hardcore fans on both sides have no right to it. Freedom of expression stops at the moment on where hate begins to spread.
This article I'm posting in the biggest Nonsten and Robsten forum. I hope you don't mind. I posted something similar in a different Nonsten and Robstensite and they kicked me out, yeah free speech and stuff.
Have a good time!
Jade
P.S I know my English is not the best, but you all will understand me.
No? oh shoot, so I'd just like to know if you take the internet's influence into consideration in your work. And what are your thoughts about that. 
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